“The next 30 years will be Cold,” Says Climate Scientist Dr Willie Soon
Article originally posted over at electroverse.net on July 28, 2021.
Alex Newman, of the New American, interviewed Dr. Willie Soon after his most recent Camp Constitution talk.
Below are some of the highlights of their discussion:
Dr. Willie Soon has produced a new paper that attempts to work out the behavior of the sun over the next 100 years.
He has done this by first studying how the sun behaved over the last 400 years, and then by extrapolating this cyclic behavior out a century-or-so into the future.
“We are already in a very weak activity state,” said Dr. Soon, “weaker than the active state of the 1980s/90s.”
This reduced spell of activity we’re in now started in 2008 and is expected to last until 2050, continues Dr. Soon.
The next 3 decades will be a “a very interesting time to be living, because we have another 30-years of the possibility of cooling.”
Soon hopes the IPCC will be honest and won’t be tempted to manipulate their data–as Soon has personally caught and demonstrated them doing in the past.
The IPCC charts show only linear warming, explains Soon, whereas the raw thermometer data reveals a clear ebb and flow of cooling and warming in a cyclical fashion.
“This shows you that they manipulated the data,” says Dr. Soon.
“Ultimately it’s about the truth, it’s not about whether my predictions comes true or not.”
We have to keep a close eye on the thermometer data used by the IPCC, stresses Soon, but also the data from the sun.
Predictions and IPCC Follies
“What we predict is that the next 20-30 years will be cold,” says Dr. Willie Soon.
“It will be a very interesting thing for the IPCC to confront.”
Dr. Soon is a firm believer that the demonizing of CO2 is all hype — a scare tactic.
He says sunlight is the key factor when it comes to Earth’s climate, and that’s why he studies it, intensely.
“This infrared radiation (CO2 infrared) is purely a reaction of the system to achieve energy balance. When there is a imbalance within the system, the system tries to look for some equilibrium.
“Infrared is just a reaction.
“This is why we say the entire climate system is powered (99+%) by the sun’s energy.”
Rising sea level is another folly.
“If you really study this carefully, sea level has risen by about 4 inches over the past 100 years,” says Soon.
“And these people are saying it’s going to rise by 300-400 inches — that’s what they’re proposing as a way to scare people.”
Dr. Soon admits he struggles with the purpose of all these lies.
Fear & control is my humble assumption. They could also be one cog in “the Great Reset” machinery.
A Cooling Planet poses far more problems than a Warming one
Dr. Willie Soon concludes the interview with one crucial implication.
“We’ll have a lot more problems if the planet were to cool than were it to warm,” he says.
It’s easier to cool ourselves in times of warmth, explains Dr. Soon –Bill Gates’ atmospheric chalk dust experiment being one rather dangerous option– but the energy simply isn’t there to heat ourselves if it were to get cold, at least not on a global scale.
The sun is our source of energy, and if this energy level drops then it will be nigh-on impossible for us human’s to replicate it.
An ice age, even a little one –such as the Maunder Minimum (1645-1715– produces problems that are much harder to solve than those posed by a warming climate, explains Soon.
Throughout ecological time, life and biodiversity has thrived during times of warmth, and has struggled during prolonged bouts of cooling.
For us humans, Soon sees the only solution as being nuclear energy.
We better start building the nuclear plants now, implies Soon, before the materials required are covered in ice.
“In that sense there is a race. Humanity is always in a race of some kind.”
But for some inexplicable reason, nuclear isn’t an option within climate alarmist circles — this is an illogical stance that again nods to an agenda being at play here, and not to an honest force in search of a fix to a genuine real-world issue.
Nuclear has the potential to ‘solve’ both AGW as well as stave off many of the issues associated with a Little Ice Age.
Yet it is discarded.
The ruse is clearer than ever.
And finally, in a direct message to the propagandized among us, Dr. Soon has this to say: “If you want to face a serious problem, worry about an ice age, never worry about global warming.”
Camp Constitution is an all volunteer association of Americanists.
It held its 13th Annual Family Camp from July 18-23, 2021 at the Singing Hills Christian Camp in Plainfield, NH.
Dr. Willie Soon was one of the guest speakers.
According to the association’s website, it runs a week-long family camp, has manned information tables at various venues, a book publishing arm, and posts videos from the camp that they feel are of importance to the general public.
You can view the interview will Dr. Willie Soon here.
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Why Climate Change [warming] is a Fraud
CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL…
It is just not created by humans.
This is the best I could do with search within the “most recent Camp Constitution talk.” link at the top of this blurb Cap’n.
2nd link – April 23, 2021 EV article [not July 28, 2021]
Possibly one of the best “redux” posts top to bottom of Electroverse history don’t miss this one from hotlink at top of page or as re-posted just below..
Aren’t you up past your bedtime?
I’m not Timmy, I’m allowed.
Another cog in proving the AGW IS A FRAUD — a quote:
“Mars has global warming, but without a greenhouse and without the participation of Martians. These parallel global warmings — observed simultaneously on Mars and on Earth — can only be a straightline consequence of the effect of the one same factor: a long-time change in solar irradiance.”
By Dr. Khabibullo Abdusamatov
They could also be one cog in “the Great Reset” machinery.
Replace “could” and “be” with one “is” and that should do it justice then.
pardon, “are” instead of “is”
The last thing climate science needs is yet another wrong climate forecast.
climate science can’t be wrong… it’s actually an art with a purpose
Forecasting is merely just an educated GUESS. If forecasting weather 1 week out causes issues for meteorologists, then months/years worth of forecasting is basically impossible. The main problem with todays climate forecasting in mainstream, ,is in fact the lack of credit they give our giant star in our sky in having affects on our planet. Simply looking at the IPCC reports, shows that they give little to no respect to our sun. This is a huge problem, and will eventually come back to bite them in their arses,
“The next 30 years will be Cold,” Says Climate Scientist Dr Willie Soon,,, just working toward making it to and really enjoying possibly the last great summer of 2025 [weather-wise] at my latitude before the next leg down… while hoping/workin’ on surviving the rancher’s current engineered ongoing big slide/musical chairs/Jew-Jumanji game.
Should be interesting to see how this news plays or ages with time.. maybe it just gets memory holed or fades to oblivion black, nothing to see here texting coinkydink?
US/Uk same diff. in the Blood, Class and Empire: The Enduring Anglo-American Relationship – Christopher Hitchens – I read this book… so ya,same diff. really.
Since the end of the Cold War so-called experts have been predicting the eclipse of America’s “special relationship” with Britain. But as events have shown, especially in the wake of 9/11, the political and cultural ties between America and Britain have grown stronger. Blood, Class and Empire examines the dynamics of this relationship, its many cultural manifestations — the James Bond series, PBS “brit Kitsch,” Rudyard Kipling — and explains why it still persists. Contrarian, essayist and polemicist Christopher Hitchens notes that while the relationship is usually presented as a matter of tradition, manners, and common culture, sanctified by wartime alliance, the special ingredient is empire; transmitted from an ancien regime that has tried to preserve and renew itself thereby. England has attempted to play Greece to the American Rome, but ironically having encouraged the United States to become an equal partner in the business of empire, Britain found itself supplanted.
He forgot the Beatles.
John Lennon supposedly [narrative wise if not actually] got “tuned” for opposing the Anglo-American establishment agendas…likely along with [much earlier] the original McCartney. You clickin’ on links yet?
So how many “mother’s little helpers” are you taking per day now, anyway?
save you the trouble
Maybe try showing a bit of sympathy sometimes… saw these guys live in Edm about 25 years ago.
A trip down memory lane, but the problem with the dark side is it becomes boring after awhile. Much rather hang with the light side. From the perspective of time, Jagger is simply pathetic.
The creative force is never boring.
I seem to be losing my interest in the “bad boys”. ‘Bout time, I’d say.
Jagger’s creative force [and much of the creative genius ww historically] is the default disposition for an intact human male who’s brain wasn’t neurologically reorganized at birth.
From the perspective of time, Jagger is simply pathetic.
Psychological projection is the process of misinterpreting what is “inside” as coming from “outside”. It forms the basis of empathy by the projection of personal experiences to understand someone else’s subjective world. In its malignant forms, it is a defense mechanism in which the ego defends itself against disowned and highly negative parts of the self by denying their existence in themselves and attributing them to others, breeding misunderstanding and causing untold interpersonal damage.
Dis bombink wus done by Special Kazakhstan Belly Dancer Milkmaid Prostitute Genie Seal Team Force – don’t belief Liz Truss and British/American MSM – they lie, try to take credit from Kazakhstan best female forces war machine in world [except for one sea drone with British parts that broke]
Kazakhstan, industry best in world
We invented toffee and trouser belt
Kazakhstan’s prostitutes, cleanest in the region
Except of course for Turkmenistan’s
Kazakhstan, Kazakhstan, you very nice place
From plains of Tarashek to northern fence of Jewtown
Come grasp mighty penis of our leader
From junction with the testes to tip of its face!
Borat day bonus for free.
Cap’n do you think Brits ever LOL at any of this crazy shit?
I think they won’t build nuclear reactors because they have frozen up on a couple of occasions. Fences at cooling water inlets froze up, requiring a plant shutdown. Seems like foreshortened cooling channels would solve the problem. That’s one reason. If there is going to be a battle for real estate on the equator they are going to disable all the nuclear power stations not in that region to avoid meltdowns. Russia may be doing that as we speak.
Have you seen the new UAH data for Oct? No one knows for sure but I hypothesize that the Tonga eruption in January is keeping the planet warmer.
0.08 increase from Sept.
My money is on the mid term elections keeping the weather warmer. That and the sun is actually in a ramping -up or building phase. .08 degrees change is negligible.
Let’s have a Gass-Off.
Politicians against cow farts.
Politicians volume farts win! Cows can’t produce that much!
I was referring to their hot air, but farts work too, lol!
No. If you set the reference period at nasa https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistem/maps/ for the last years, from 2012 to 2020 and you look at the surface temperatures in the southern hemisphere, you will see that during the southern winter , in particular the months of July and August, first from the atlantic ocean and then from the coral sea/tasman sea, too warm water flows to Antarctica.
The continents are always cooler than normal due to the weak sun. Another 18 months and the sun descends to a lower direction towards solar cycle 26. Curious about the next ten winters. To be almost at the max of solar cycle 25 I think the warming is weak.
In the north, in May, when the ice melts, you can see that the warm seawater that was just below the ice sheet can release its heat. This disappears and then reappears in the Pacific Ocean, east of China, in July. July was also warmer than September on your chart.
For years I can’t find any heat from the sun on the mainland, just warm seawater bubbles driving the graph.
What does become visible, take the temperature for the year 2021, you will see that the oil countries are too warm on average every year. The US, North African countries, the Arabs. It has now also been determined from the space station that there are large methane leaks of up to 3 km long.
These are the places where the country is too warm on average. By methane, not by CO2.
BTW, a few years ago it was said that methane is 30 times more greenhouse gas in relation to CO2, which has now been reduced to 20 times to continue to justify the ‘war against CO2’. Yes, even this established data is manipulated.
I Did not realize Michael Mann’s fetcher and carrier, Quasimodo, used Belgian 5.7 millimeter bullets. I(satire)
Earth Day Celebration! Shots Fired at Dr. Roy Spencer’s, Dr. John Christy’s Building reported in your link on April 24, 2017 [so Mr. Magical Mystical Mystery Mystic is there a mystical message or point here from NEWS from 5.5 years ago… ’cause it ain’t really breaking NEWS at this point?]
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to be shot by a 5.7m.m. repeater” George Santayana.
… and “Only the dead have seen the end of war” against the Electroverse trolls and Wookies.
Looks like it’s deja vu all over again!
Well Lulu you’ve certainly been behavin’ lately… be nice if that becomes the long term déjà vu situation all over again… and again… all over again.
Yessir! Until I can’t,
… because I really enjoy the pain to tell you the truth.
Grumpy Grinch Calls For “Overthrow Of Whole Capitalist System” [it was something she thought up all by herself without any prompting from her WEF globalist handlers]
Previously, she’d sold herself as a five-foot human alarm bell, a climate Cassandra. Her role was to warn, not to instruct: her most viral moments involved her scolding political leaders, not trying to supplant them. She strenuously avoided programmatic detail, saying such things were “nothing to do with me”. But now, on stage and in this book, she has found her political feet, specifically the Left-wing ideology of anti-capitalism and de-growth.
Interspersed among the usual directives about the need to pressure political leaders, her message was more radical and more militant than it has been in the past. There is no “back to normal”, she told us. “Normal” was the “system” which gave us the climate crisis, a system of “colonialism, imperialism, oppression, genocide”, of “racist, oppressive extractionism”. Climate justice is part of all justice; you can’t have one without the others. We can’t trust the elites produced by this system to confront its flaws – that’s why she, much like Rishi Sunak, won’t be bothering with the COP meeting this year. COP itself is little more than a “scam” which facilitates “greenwashing, lying and cheating”. Only overthrow of “the whole capitalist system” will suffice.
This tranny front kid has a larger vocabulary than the average church lady. Our future with this new generation of tiny tyrant trannies in-charge looks bright.
The co-founder of Extinction Rebellion, the offshoot of which, Just Stop Oil, is currently engaged in blocking roads across London, admitted in his own words that his movement “isn’t about the climate.”
In 2019, Stuart Basden revealed the true goals of the far-left environmentalist action group in a lengthy article posted on Medium.
Basden asserted that whatever climate problems exist can’t be fixed and that the movement should instead be focused on tearing down the entire system of western capitalism (China, the world’s biggest polluter, isn’t mentioned once).
He claimed that “European civilization” is to blame for spreading “cruelty” and “violence” throughout the globe for the last 600 years and bringing “torture, genocide, carnage and suffering to the ends of the earth.”
Basden then cited numerous “delusions” which are to blame for this situation, including “white supremacy,” “patriarchy” and “class hierarchy” (a strange one given that most Extinction Rebellion protesters are upper middle class snobs who do little but inconvenience and harm the working class).
“The delusions of hetero-sexism/heteronormativity propagate the idea that heterosexuality is ‘normal’ and that other expressions of sexuality are deviant,” writes Basden.
So there you have it, it isn’t about the climate, it’s about bringing down the west and replacing everything it stands for with a nightmare far-left form of identity politics-mad totalitarianism.
using similar tactics/rules as the homosexual/rules for radicals/ manifestos agenda(s)
Breaking the ice at -2.2ºC in the middle of “November 2” in the ‘Vale do Caminho da Neve’. (South Brazil high mountains)
With a drizzle of snow and freezing rain in addition the forecast of another 4 or 5 consecutive days of frost in the region.
Today: Low temperatures in many cities in Paraná. Dawn was freezing and remains that way until the early hours of the morning. Today we have lower temperatures than yesterday, that is, new records for the month of November.
Lowest max temps on Climaterra (S. Joaquim) in 24 years: 6.6°C
Enjoy this year’s heat, because if it continues like this, next year will be even colder.
Real headlines… nothing scripted, arranged or timed on the “world stage:or within their agenda(s).
Boris Johnson is back … from his three post-resignation holidays
Bibi Is Back!’: Exit Polls Show Netanyahu With Majority Bloc in Israeli Elections
Trump coming back
Justin Trudeau secures a third victory in an election ‘nobody wanted’
nothing is rigged or set up ww
The Extinction Rebellion ethos explains why nuclear is not on the radar – who wants a solution to keeping some semblance of a modern lifestyle? Just pull it down however it can be done. Bring on living like a person under CCP rule – just what everyone wants ???? ( I am not serious – but this does explain the no nuclear issue)
Whatever fear tactics [including nukes “real or not”] they can roll out now to keep the awakened pure-bloods with eyes/ears prepping for the incoming cooling/famines/chaos etc…likely the better. “Cruel”, “Controlled” supply chain take-downs and soft kill cull(s) may not be “nice” [like you Trevor] but they may be eugenically “kind” to mankind [or humankind as Truedope would say] in the long-term. The “modern lifestyle” now should likely be to be making ready for SHTF as they’ve [including right here, right now at Electroverse almost everyday] been giving “kindly” and “lots” and “lots” of warning(s)… not always so “nice” especially by some of the “less refined” or “blunt/rude” commenters who I wouldn’t want to name personally;) You get it. Cheers..
Owie! Was that aimed at me?
Well if you figure the shoe fits… maybe just the combo Martha Succubus Church Lady/Frau Blucher/Wicked Witch/Cruella de Vil part… that you hopefully “used” to play so well. Remember you said that I wasn’t “a nice man” well that’s probably right… I’m probably just “kind” in a sort of twisted semi-nice way, eh? ;).
You are at the very, very bleeding edge of understanding the big picture reality if you understand the relationship between Ice Age and Totalitarianism and Eugenics Now… that’s sorta like a hint Sweetie.
Oh, I get it, all right. Certain people have convinced themselves it’s kinder to kill people off than let them go through the inevitable catastrophes on the way.
This is a logical fallacy.i forget the name–straw man, maybe.
The real alternative to death by catastrophe was to mobilize the entire human race to deal with the coming catastrophes when there was still time to do it by telling us the truth and providing adequate leadership.
Genocide is not the answer, and I doubt God is going to overlook it, no matter what specious arguments are used to justify it.
The majority of people need to be led, as always, and they ARE being led, right off the edge of a cliff. It didn’t have to be this way.
Life is hard for “some” of the cattle some of the time… but it is a ranch with changing seasons, Clarice, hear the lambs screaming like all the baby boys screaming while being sheared ww… every 30 seconds in America,,, and very likely… one… constant… shrieking… scream ww.
If you read/listen to a bunch of Rolf’s work that was his hope… but AW was the eugenics [globalist rancher(s) Charles Fort type] realist who knew how it was going to go down with no smoke up the ass and knowing me you can be dang sure he understood the cyclical nature of the ice age winters and herd management realities. All emails were exchanged between all the ice age genius I could find and all the eugenics genius (dozens of men literally) by yours truly in the summer of 2019 with a thousand links attached literally. Another reason that Rolf likely doxed/rewared me… I’m not sure which but I felt that he wanted the major “man’s inhumanity to man, baby boys awareness/message to carry on beyond his life. A floating basalt water world just wasn’t feasible. So here we are… the juggernaut in motion was/is unstoppable. WTFU
“The Earth is a farm. We are someone else’s property.”
― Charles Fort
The important part of me belongs to Jesus Christ.
You can have the body if you want it. I’m pretty well finished with it anyway.
After the Antichrist comes Armageddon, and you’re on the losing side of that. But you were on the wrong side the moment you got thrown out of heaven.
I would never have taken the vax. God told me not to.
I might should clarify that. You can have the body WHEN I’m finished with it.
I have a couple/ few more things to do here yet.
No, only the sheep need to be led, led to slaughter, by their clergy response teams and their “dead kike on a stick Abrahamic mutilating murderous good shepherd”… you were just lucky that you liked hanging out with the ice age and eugenics “genius” in the know or you’d likely be vaxxed as well. It doesn’t matter about all the other alternate possible options that church people pie in the sky like you and Rolf might “wish” for… we must deal with what is… right here, right now as the Grumpy Grinch would say.
Go ahead and “deal” with it–it’s all in the Book so no surprises for those of us who bother to read it– but just don’t kid yourself that you are in any way doing the “right” or “kind” thing.
As for that genius, he has the Godgiven right to repent and be forgiven right up to the wire, something your kind threw away aeons ago. You, and the foolish humans who follow you, are the real losers here.
I think you likely have your phallusies mixed up.
Time will tell, young/old feller.
… with your Pharisees and the innocent puppets.
… or what’s left of it.
Chukotka – A hard land.
November started with 40 degree frost.
An unusually cold climate has settled over Chukotka. In continental regions at night the air cools down to -40..-45°C, even during the day there are severe frosts, -20..-25°C.
Even for Chukotka in early November, it is far below the climatic norm. The abnormal cold remains on the peninsula for about a week. The temperature anomaly in the center and west of the district reaches 12 degrees. The 1st of November had a record minimum temperature. In Ilirnei, the thermometers marked -40.9°C. The previous record, -39.7°C, remained in 1977.
Martin up there, Martin… it’s Chiquita you “Ruskie troll”, pretty cryptic Cap’n – yes a hard land – both ways, Cheers. lol.
The bureau of meteorology hear in Australia made a big deal about Julia Creek having its highest ever October temperature of 43.9 on the 30th. It was actually only 0.1 degree C above the 2018 record and with only 1 day till November. However there has been no mention of the smashing of the minimum record this morning of officially 10 Degree C which busted the previous low for November by 2.5 degrees C. Isn’t that strange, how they do like to cherry pick.
@Chiquita Lokita Shemitah
Many thanks for your kindly appreciative encouragement in a previous thread, and the highly interesting information or links.
So far I have only been able to sift through them superficially, as I am still very busy in my job.
“And as you likely already know RWF’s “IceAgeNow.info” site has been deleted”
No, I did not know him at all …
“[I can send you Robert’s first book “Not by Fire, but by Ice” as a .pdf if you’d like]”
Yes, I’d be very interested in that – what’s the most practical way to get that managed?
“I’ll likely try to drop you a note sometime or drop me one anytime…”
I’ve had an account at wordpress.com for a few years now, which I’ve used exclusively for reading. Somehow you found it – how? Is this a way to get in touch or how can we exchange personal messages?
“…. und vielen Dank für alles, was Sie getan haben. Prost”
😉 You are kidding – what have I done other than formulate a few thoughts? Cheers!