The Top Climate Scientist who Exposed NOAA as Frauds

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) ‘correct’ data they don’t like, and ‘fail to archive the evidence’ — they are frauds in the eyes of many.

Former top NOAA scientist, Dr. John Bates, led the agency’s climate data records program for ten years.

Since his time at the agency, however, Bates has spoken of data tampering and serious malfeasance; specifically, he accuses NOAA of publishing a flawed report which supposedly disproved the pause observed in global warming between 1998 to 2012.

Bates charges that study’s lead author, NOAA official Tom Karl, with using unverified data sets, ignoring mandatory agency procedures, and failing to archive evidence, all in a “blatant attempt to intensify the impact” of the paper in advance of a crucial UN Climate Change Conference back in 2015.

The paper, “Possible Artifacts of Data Biases in the Recent Global Surface Warming Hiatus,” was published in Science magazine in the June of 2015, just a few months before world leaders gathered in Paris to hammer out a costly global pact on climate-change mitigation.

The study claimed that the ‘pause’ or ‘slowdown’ in global warming in the period since 1998, as revealed by UN scientists in 2013, never actually existed, and that world temperatures had instead been rising even faster than scientists expected.

Launched by NOAA with a public relations fanfare, the paper’s findings were splashed across the world’s media, and cited repeatedly by politicians and policy makers.

That widely observed pause in global warming simply wasn’t to be accepted by the AGW Party, and, in turn, NOAA’s climate data office was tasked with challenging the IPCC findings and prove that the hiatus did not exist. That was their aim, by hook or by crook, disappear that pesky pause, and do it in time for that crucial climate meeting in Paris.

Journalist Julie Kelly writes in her article dated Feb, 7, 2017: The Climate activists were sweating over the acknowledgement by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in 2013 that “the rate of warming over the past 15 years is smaller than the rate calculated since 1951.” The IPCC walked back its own predictions from 2007 that short-term temperatures would rise between 1 and 3 degrees Celsius. The IPCC in 2013 “concluded that the global surface temperature” has shown a much smaller increasing linear trend over the past 15 years [1998 to 2012] than over the past 30 to 60 years” and the rise in global temperatures was “estimated to be around one-third to one-half of the trend over 1951–2012.”

It didn’t take NOAA’s Tom Karl very long at all to ‘develop’ a way to artificially raise sea-temperatures. Karl did this by discarding readings collected by buoys, which are more accurate, and replaced them with the temperature readings collected by ships, which are found to be warmer.

“In regards to sea surface temperature, scientists have shown that across the board, data collected from buoys are cooler than ship-based data,” said one of the study’s co-authors. It was therefore necessary, the NOAA scientists argued, to “correct the difference between ship and buoy measurements, and we are using this in our trend analysis.”

The unstable land readings: Scientists at NOAA used land temperature data from 4,000 weather stations (pictured, one in Montana, USA). But the software used to process the figures was bug-ridden and unstable. NOAA also used 'unverified' data that was not tested or approved. This data as merged with unreliable sea surface temperatures
The ‘unstable’ land readings: Scientists at NOAA used land temp data from 4,000 weather stations (pictured above is one in Montana). However, the software they used to process the figures was found to be bug-ridden and unstable. NOAA also used ‘unverified’ data that was not tested or approved. This data was merged with aforementioned unreliable sea surface temps.
The ‘adjusted’ sea readings: Average sea surface temperatures are calculated using data from weather buoys. But NOAA ‘adjusted’ these figures upwards to fit with data taken from ships – which is warmer. This exaggerated the warming rate, allowing NOAA to claim in the paper dubbed the ‘Pausebuster’ that there was in fact no ‘pause’.

And lo-and-behold, this highly dubious methodology concluded that the warming trend for 2000 to 2014 was exactly the same as it was for 1950 to 1999.

“There is no discernible (statistical or otherwise) decrease in the rate of warming between the second half of the 20th century and the first 15 years of the 21st century,” claimed the study, which concluded that the IPCC’s statement about a slower rise in global temperature “is no longer valid.”

Mission accomplished, NOAA.

The study was applauded by climate activists and their media sympathizers, but Bates felt compelled to call out the study’s major, and to him glaring, problems.

“They had good data from buoys,” he said. “And they threw it out and ‘corrected’ it by using the bad data from ships [a natural warming source]. You never change good data to agree with the bad, but that’s what they did so as to make it look as if the sea was warmer.”

Bates also pointed to the study completely ignoring satellite data, which also generally runs cooler. And as if things couldn’t sound any more shady, the computer used to process the data “suffered a complete failure,” meaning that none of the data had been archived or made available as required by NOAA rules. Therefore, Karl’s paper can’t be replicated or independently verified.

Bates concluded by saying that government scientists routinely fail to save their work.

“The most critical issue in archival of climate data is actually scientists who are unwilling to formally archive and document their data.”

THIS is the state of modern climate science.

THIS is what the alarmists are insistent is ‘settled’, is unquestionably going to lead to our species demise, and so requires suicidal slashings of cheap and reliable fossil fuel usage and the introduction of crippling carbon taxes to combat.

THIS is insanity, particularly given that the opposite climatic reality is likely fast-approaching:

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94 Thoughts to “The Top Climate Scientist who Exposed NOAA as Frauds”

  1. .

    Meanwhile hottest October on record here in Spain all this after and undeniable super hot summer.
    I wanna believe you but It gets more and more difficult each time.

    1. Cap Allon

      A ‘wavy jet stream’ explains both African plumes AND Arctic outbreaks.
      But don’t blindly believe me. Let’s see how this winter goes.

      1. Terry Shipman

        Cap, over the last couple of years I have tried to educate myself on climate issues. The actions of the jet stream are one of the most important phenomena I’ve learned. I’ve learned to spot the heat that arises under a jet stream bulge and the cold that follows in a jet stream dip. So when a climate alarmist cries CLIMATE CHANGE when a heat wave arises I can look at a weather map and understand that, no, we are under a jet stream bulge. I can then see that on the other side of the jet stream is a dip bringing cooler weather. It’s just weather and not climate change.

        People should learn that as the sun descends into a minimum we will see more effects of a wavy jet stream. So heat spells will not be uncommon.

        I’ve noticed that in the last couple of years that alarmist proponents have been forced to change their messaging since it is obvious that temperatures are not linearly getting warmer with snow disappearing. Now we are told that warm causes cold and snow. It’s because of CLIMATE CHANGE after all.

        I’m glad I received my degree in history because I can see how such periods as the Roman Warming period, Medieval Warming period and the Little ice Age affected humanity. I despise historical revisionists, such as Michael Mann and his hockey stick, who try to alter history. This includes “scientists” who deliberately alter data.

        It’s nice being retired and having time to study these issues.

        1. Chiquita Lokita Shemitah


          Good ‘ol boy F4 Top Gun Marine pilot w/ over 800 missions turned horse-sense cap’n obvious author Bob Moriarty warns ‘first worldwide global revolution’ is now under way – get tangible/edible stuff while the gettin’s good – 13 hrs ago

          GLOBALIST BANKING SYSTEM COLLAPSE SOON – PREPARE OR PERISH – MIKE ADAMS – BOB MORIARTY – Break Down How the Globalist Banking System Collapse Will Affect the Population

          1. .


        2. FYI

          ***BULLETIN *** 10′ Tall WALL put around Federal Reserve Bank in Washington on SUNDAY! – Hal Turner 06 November 2022


        cap..would you say the jet stream despite its north/south oscillations is gradually penetrating further south ,i read that it was the magnetic fields that kept it in a more stable northern latitude position and now they are weakening the jet stream is more unstable

        1. Moffin

          Hi Steven. There is a possibility Cap is out in his garden intoxicated on the sweet aroma of polyphenols so I will have a crack at your question.

          First is to refresh multiple hypothesis. The direct and indirect and sometimes opposing effects of solar cycles, Milankovitch cycles, geothermal activity, and electromagnetic influences require acknowledgement.

          One fairly well understood influence in meridional jet streams is the sun cycles.
          If we look at we see that in 2019 there were 281 spotless days on the sun. This means much less ultraviolet and other energy frequencies are entering Earth’s atmosphere.
          This year we have only one spotless day. A lot more corona mass ejections sending ultraviolet to excite the molecules in the upper atmosphere, shattering oxygen molecules to form ozone. More excited atmospheric molecules means warming and expansion.
          A warmer and expanded upper atmosphere and Hadley Cell increases pressure between the differing atmospheric cells which leads to a tighter, zonal jet stream.

          In summary, during polarity reversals of the solar cycle the jet streams will be meridional with a big ozone hole.
          Halfway through the solar cycle with heaps of activity tightens the jet stream and increases ozone.

          This is the influence of one input but we must continue to research other inputs such as electromagnetism etc. Multi hypothesis.

          Disclaimer. I am not a scientist and am happy to be challenged or corrected. Learning over ego.

          1. Moffin

            Correction! ‘shattering oxygen molecules to form ozone.’ should read ‘shattering the bonds between oxygen molecules to allow the forming of ozone’.
            Rough enough.

    2. Michael Peinsipp

      Go here and see the wavy Jet Stream that causes ‘heat’ waves in one area when right next to that place it is colder.;-81;1&l=temperature-500hpa
      That wavy line should be a line that has barely any wave to it.

      1. Moffin

        Excellent map thank you, Michael. It allowed me to enter my place of residence then zoom out. I have had an eye out for a decent jet-stream map for yonks. (a long time)
        I study the global surface pressure map most days. it would be great to be able to have a surface level map and jet-stream map side by side and also be able to overlay them. Also to be able to do something similar with, say, three Jetstream maps at differing altitudes to help understand the vertical dynamics.
        I read once that the jet stream winds spiral like a a double helix or tornado on their side but I can still neither confirm nor deny.
        The best surface pressure map I have come across is this one.
        One of the tricks for identifying anomalous temperatures is that high pressure systems usually look a little like an egg shape lying on its side but when the high-pressure system is like an egg shape standing on end a mass of air is moved between a wide range of latitudes. This requires slow moving, stable, air flow over the ocean.
        That anomalous 17C degree temperature over the Antarctic peninsula around 3 years ago was caused by a mass of air from 20 degrees South latitude being slowly moved SSEast by such a setup next to a very shallow depression. IE. Stable slow moving airmass.
        Have a great weekend, yaall.

        1. walnutter

          Alternative presentation at,-25.04,422
          Possibly uses same source data… i have no way of checking. Can be interesting to view through the different air- pressure layers from sea level up to 200 hPa and do-our-own forecast of weather results, just to confirm our own understanding of which direction the causative forcings are going. Most times I get a fail, so much to learn yet.
          Cheers, W

          1. Moffin

            Hi walnutter, another excellent reference. The answer to what I was asking for.
            Curiously the best definition of the two polar jet streams and subtropical jet streams is at the 10HPa pressure or approximately 31,000 meters altitude, way above the top of the Hadley cell.
            It will be possible now to better understand ‘heat domes’ or aka subsidence inversions when they occur in NH summers over NH landmasses such as the first comment about Spain last summer.
            Walnutter posting this reference gives support to the old addage, ‘there is no such thing as a dumb question’.

      2. Ranch Ghost

        Great link Herr Peinsipp. Thanks.

        This is the 2m above ground data – works great – wow. Everyone should save/bookmark this link;-115.0;5&l=temperature-2m

        Jets tream data at 5500 m;-81;1&l=temperature-500hpa

        Snow cover data
        Tol’ ja I didn’t have much snow in the sweet spot here in AB jus now – wow this site is great;-81;1&l=snow

      3. Doktor Seltsamer Wetterliebhaber

        This map in real-time at 2m above ground level over NA right now is starting to look very much like the Cap’n’s projected cold weather/wavy jetstream map from a day or so ago.;-81;1&l=temperature-2m&t=20221110/0200

    3. AZ1971

      You’re experiencing something known as observer bias—because YOU are currently experiencing something, the same must be true elsewhere.

      I live in Phoenix, Arizona and October was cooler than normal—I could say exactly the opposite of you. Who’s right?

      Both of us. Each of us are experiencing a local, or regional, effect of global fluid mechanics. Projecting our own experience to the greater planetary conditions is a false doctrine.

    4. Ranch Ghost

      Up here under a “somewhat consistent” sweet spot under the average location [for around here] of the local dip/slope on the wavy jet stream over this part of AB [and coincidentally, or not, it’s even the historic glacial ice coming going last/first maps] “sweet spot” for this latitude in almost dead central AB with almost no snow this year yet and it’s +3 deg. C right now… yet many places far south and usually farther east in NA are under many inches of snow and often even much colder.

      … it’s the best kinda strange weather… the cows like it… and the hay burn rate stays at pretty much zero often well into Dec/Jan.every year.

      1. Ranch Ghost

        … the sweet spot gave way to the freezing cold spot as predicted… but at least it’s been real sunny during the day… Currier & Ive-ish with white fresh powder covering everything. Fire’s burning in the large glass fronted wood stove. and i like it.–a1129-b12143/currier-ives-winter-posters.htm

    5. Richard Greene

      Hot summers are not a symptom of greenhouse warming. The best symptom is warmer winters

      1. Electroverse Secular Only Mingle - no peckerheads, globohomos, DS/BS or Church Lady Logos Trolls Allowed

        There is no greenhouse warming Richie Greenee Troll – nice try.

        But the 1960/70’s weather here in AB proves that super hot summers can be followed by super cold winters with high snow falls. I was a newspaper delivery boy, farm boy and forced Catholic altar boy and later a roughneck, [I was a lot of different kinds of boys in an ocean of forced genitally mutilated boys who liked messing with the non-secular zombies especially in the Catholic schools from an early age… messing with their non-secular zombie heads in kind of a fun way… and why not… they were already the walking wanna be dead angels/devils back in heaven (or Purgatory or Limbo or hell (maybe not so much)] with their Abrahamic mutilator zombie god(s) or satan(s) or holy ghosts already] working outside in them years. Super hot summers and super cold/snowy winters really all the way through solar cycle 19. She was a cooker and a freezer summer ‘n winter.

    6. Doktor Seltsamer Wetterliebhaber

      Alaska Is the Fastest Warming State in the Country – Mercola article today
      Scientists are using large-scale manipulation of the Earth’s climate, known as geoengineering, to alter the effects of global warming and the United Nations is considering a controversial form that comes with potentially disastrous effects
      The risks of geoengineering on a large scale are immense, including being used as a weapon to advance wealthy societies at the expense of poor countries by artificially cooling some areas and triggering dangerous droughts, severe weather and heat in others so food can no longer be grown

      Cloud Seeding, Geoengineering and Social Control

      … but because of wavy jet streams…
      Much Of Alaska Was Ice Free During The Last Ice Age – March 26, 2014

      Dr. Mercola must not be “getting” [both ways] the perspective, yet,,on wavy jet streams,.. or it’s just “stage (3)” “ignorance” and science diversion propaganda as noted below. Mercola has been given the links to Electroverse dozens of times previously… as you might imagine.

  2. Ice Age Totalitarianism Eugenics

    The progression of the three stages of sociology progressing to technocratic scientific Totalitarianism

    (1) The Theological [church lady] stage refers to the appeal to personified deities. During the earlier stages, people believed that all the phenomena of nature are the creation of the divine or supernatural. Adults and children failed to discover the natural causes of various phenomena and hence attributed them to a supernatural or divine power.[1]

    (2) The Metaphysical stage is an extension of the theological stage. It refers to explanation by impersonal abstract concepts. People often try to characterize God as an abstract being.[1] They believe that an abstract power or force guides and determines events in the world.

    (3) The Positivity stage, also known as the scientific stage, refers to scientific explanation based on observation, experiment, and comparison. Positive explanations rely upon a distinct method, the scientific method, for their justification. Today people attempt to establish cause and effect relationships. Positivism is a purely intellectual way of looking at the world; as well, it emphasizes observation and classification of data and facts. This is the highest, most evolved behavior according to Comte.[1]

    Comte, however, was conscious of the fact that the three stages of thinking may or do coexist in the same society or in the same mind and may not always be successive.

    During a mega cull of the remnant stage (1) and (2) people the technocratic stage (3) people publicly corrupt the published or MSM presented science to herd/lure the stage (1) and (2) people using their [often wilful] ignorance against them] into the corrals/concentration camps [figuratively/literally] or with lockdowns/mandates [literally] and then slaughter them [literally and covertly] using what appear to be humane methods. No fuss, no muss… big [Rover] bubbles, no troubles.

    1. .

      California Is Now Castrating Children From All 50 States

      1. Deb

        Come out of her, my people.

        I wouldn’t want to be in California when judgment comes.

    2. Deb

      As soon as one of these “scientific” atheists proves to me that God does not exist, I’ll start listening to him.

      Science only measures the physical world and so far has been unable to grasp the spiritual world. Only living things can sense the spiritual world. Ask your dog.

      1. Balboa

        Can i get an Amen? Soulless ghouls at the helm of many nations.

        1. John Galts offspring.

          Another Amen here also.
          Maybe look at LA Marzulli “On the Trail of the Nephilim.”
          So just WHAT WERE the people doing in the “Days of Noah?”
          Reveling, fornication, oh yeah: Take another look: Fallen Angels (the bad ones) having WHAT? and producing what? Look a little deeper into Genesis. and do some correlation…
          This will probably get me scrubbed from the site, I don’t care.
          Do some research and bring it up to this time in our lives.

          1. Deb

            And don’t forget that God raised up Babylon as a tool to conquer the Jews when the Jexs turned away from Him.

            I certainly see a parallel today in the Muslims who conquered Byzantium, are going on to overrun Europe, and will probably do the same with America sooner or later.

            If you don’t believe me, just keep on killing babies.

            1. John Galts offspring.

              @Deb: I don’t kill babies. Non-aborter here.

            2. Deb

              Sorry, John, I didn’t mean you specifically. I meant the culture at large, just as killing babies is a symbol of the wide array of evil activities occurring in Western “civilzation.”

              Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

          2. Electroverse Non-secular Mingle

            John’s Spawn, “This will probably get me scrubbed from the site, I don’t care.”

            Relax John, all stage (1)(2) people are welcome here on Electroverse Non-secular Mingle just as they are at:

            Bless all you Brothers and Sisters of the Child Mutilated and Child Sacrificed Lord of the Dead Kike on a Stick Faith.

            1. Deb

              Is it time to start scooping up Christians? Or are they still compiling dossiers?

              The internet is surely not a safe place for Christians to hang out, but trying to convince anyone of that would probably be as effective as telling them to throw away their TV’s.

              TV’s’– dozens
              Deb– zero

            2. .

              … devote delutions – infinite

            3. Deb


              Weakened magnetosphere getting to you, lol?

            4. .

              Glad my name is only “.” the demon demented dementia is kicking in… prolly need some mother’s little helpers while communicating with the stage (1)s.

            5. .

              … maybe it’s just the heat here in Spain that’s mainly cooking my brain on the plain.

            6. Deb

              Lol! You are completely insane!

              And I hope you’re happy–you woke Timmy up!

            7. Church Lady Logos

              Hark Fellow Christians,
              Electroverse Non-secular Mingle is surely not a safe space for Christians to hang out,to proselytize our non-secular orthodoxy of religions dogma and propaganda any longer. Let us all pray and make a Holy Christian Pilgrimage [instructions below] to a real safe space for us Christians led by our Lord [who spoke to me personally] the Good Shepherd and me, the Church Lady Holy Crusader of the faith in our search for the real truth and acceptance. Amen.

            8. ,

              … continued.

              To go on pilgrimage is not simply to visit a place to admire its treasures of nature, art or history. To go on pilgrimage really means to step out of ourselves in order to encounter God where he has revealed himself, where his grace has shone with particular splendour and produced rich fruits of conversion and holiness among those who believe. Above all, Christians go on pilgrimage to the Holy Land, to the places associated with the Lord’s passion, death and resurrection. Amen.

            9. Deb

              So why does an evil character like you keep pushing a Christian singles group, unless it is being used to compile a NWO hit list of Christians? I visited the site–didnt see anyone getting lucky.

              Beware, people. This guy is not on your side.

            10. Achmed's Mosque Lady GF

              Deb you’ve got to stop using that old profile pic on Christian Mingle. They all likely know that you are much older than that… besides blowjobs from skeletons are just not appealing… I know… and now I tink Achmed’s cheatink on me. Sniff.

              maybe try using this clip and tell them that this is you

              Leonard Cohen even wrote a song about skeletons getting the afterlife… so there’s always hope… if not here on earth then maybe later… us Church/Mosque Lady(s) need to stick together.against the filthy evil intact infidels/characters of this world. Inshallah.

              A Woman’s View of Child Genital Mutilation
              …it’s frightening to give it up.

      2. Matt Dalby

        It’s impossible to prove that God (or Allah, Lord Vishnu etc.) doesn’t exist, however I suggest you read, and understand the message of, Bertrand Russel’s parable of the celestial teapot.

        1. Timmy

          I saw the Celestial Teapot spinning with my toy telescope one time so I’m a believer… but now I’m mostly a Pastafarian at the the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster after converting from early Tooth Fairy worship and when I was too young to understand how crazy the Christian church ladies and spinny nuns were who were trying to gaslight me into believing this zombie Jew god who wouldn’t stay dead and kept coming back to life and then finally rose up to heaven in the sky except for leaving his foreskin back here on earth. Crazy.

        2. Deb

          Thanks, but there’s no point. You’d have a better chance of convincing the sun will not be coming up tomorrow.

          I have had a close personal relationship with God for so long that He’s way more real to me than you or Bertrand Russell are.

          Would you doubt your own mother’s existence because of something you read in a book?

          1. Ranch Ghost

            My mom and you could likely be best friends even though I think she might be even a bit holier than you are, My whole [1000% of them] family are also deeply vaxx ‘n Vatican lovin’ Catholic evangelists. Lucky though both parents were descendants of a long line of Germanic-Russian baby boy non-mutilators. None of the family even get tattoos or piercings. I only got basically shunned and banished from the tribe to the Great Northern Wilderness:[much like Buck in “Call of the Wild”] after really rejecting/denouncing their fluoridation/injection soft kill cult beliefs and also becoming an Ice Age Totalitarianism Eugenics conspiracy theorist. I’m still half surprised that I haven’t been able to get excommunicated by all the devoutly holy church lady ghosts yet,,, some church ladies I guess are just really tough nuts when it comes to the rejection of logos.

            1. Deb

              I do not have a relationship with a human organization. I was not raised in church.

              I have a relationship directly with the one who created me. He is the one who saved me, in the middle of the night in a former monastery where the presence of the Holy Spirit was still strong.

              He is the one I talk to/pray to, and no created beings are invited to come between us.

              He is more real to me than any other person or any other creature.

              When mountains begin to slide into the sea, He is the one I will cling to, who will uphold me with His right hand.

              The pastor and his wife, at the church I go to, got the vax. I don’t know why–many women of the congregation begged them not to. And now they seem to be in and out of the hospital a lot…

              These are the consequences of relying too heavily upon humans for your direction in life. They are always subject to error and corruption. I’m sorry for your Mom and your family. Perhaps having to suffer consequences for their decisions will show them, before it is too late, that only God can be trusted 100%.

      3. Electroverse Non-secular Mingle


        Hitchens’s razor is an epistemological razor (a general rule for rejecting certain knowledge claims) that states “what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”[1][2][3] The razor was created by and named after author and journalist Christopher Hitchens (1949–2011). It implies that the burden of proof regarding the truthfulness of a claim lies with the one who makes the claim; if this burden is not met, then the claim is unfounded, and its opponents need not argue further in order to dismiss it. Hitchens used this phrase specifically in the context of refuting religious belief.[3]

        Why is it that few people seem to have problems with the burden of proof when it comes to the innocence or guilt of a murder suspect, but then cannot apply the same exact logic to more esoteric issues, such as the existence of ghosts, gods, and the like?—Massimo Pigliucci, 2010

        Most people as young children appear to have a “commonsense” understanding of the burden of proof. When young people hear a claim being made and it is, in their minds and experience, an extraordinary claim being made, quite often the response is one of asking for something to support the claim. The most common retorts are along the line of “Prove it”, “What makes you say that”, “Show me” or something like “Oh, yeah?”. Somewhere along the way too many humans lose that sense and too often suspend their inclination to accept the principles underlying the “Burden of Proof”. Going a bit further it is to be noted that not all people care to be considered as being rational or reasonable or willing to use their intellect as best as possible but for any person who cares at all about being rational and using reason then operating with the “Burden of Proof” rule of reason:

        You cannot claim that “miracles exist unless someone proves that they do not exist.”

        You cannot claim that “souls exist unless someone proves that they do not exist.”

        You cannot claim that “angels exist unless someone proves that they do not exist.”

        You cannot claim that “deities exist unless someone proves that they do not exist.”

        The Burden of Proof as presented below applies to claims that are cognitive and empirical. The principle applies to claims about what exists or does not exist.

        1. Deb

          You can only know God if you want to. Willingness is the key.

          You can go through life thinking there is no God, and no proof there is God, but that will only occur if you DO NOT WANT to know that God exists.

          If you seek to know if God exists with an open mind, in truth, or a desire to know Him, He will prove Himself to you. But you still won’t have anything you can quantify and prove to skeptics.

        2. Deb

          Hitchens was talking about a realm about which he knew nothing.

          And the reason he knew nothing is because he wanted to believe he was large and in charge, which is very difficult to do once you admit you are a created being, and someone else is running the show.

          All these PTB are propagating the very same delusion in their own and each others’ lives.

          God will always tell them the truth, and they don’t want to hear it. The devil tells them the lies they want to hear, that they are powerful and in charge.

          But sooner or later, we all have to pay the piper…

        3. Deb

          I should have added, thank God that Jesus Christ is paying for me!

          1. .

            … unfortunate “Freudian slip/projection” or divine intervention?

    3. Electroverse Non-secular Mingle


      The Remnant Stage (1) and (2) People Mingle Group comes together..
      “As soon as one of these [stage (3)] “scientific” atheists proves to me that God does not exist, I’ll start listening to him.”

      [maybe ask some of these human children (including your recently genitally mutilated grandson] being tortured instead of your dog]

      Church Lady stage (1) Logos is the gold standard of the scientific seek. See stage (1) description above.

      You guys seem like a fun bunch… can join?

      1. Deb

        I wonder why you seem so fixated on that little wee wee, but not one word about the wide array of vaccines the poor little bugger is soon due to receive.

        If he lives through that, it will be an act of God.

        Wouldn’t you like to bash me with that for awhile?

        And incidentally, his parents have made it clear that they will be making their own decisions regarding their family. Great-grandmas need not apply.

        1. Electroverse Non-secular Mingle

          … all stage (1) Deltas.

          The menial staff of the Park Lane Hospital for the Dying consisted of one hundred and sixty-two Deltas divided into two Bokanovsky Groups of eighty-four red-headed female and seventy-eight dark dolichocephalic male twins, respectively.
          Brave New World By Aldous Huxley

        2. Electroverse Non-secular Mingle

          Clits are much smaller than ” that little wee wee” … being a Delta stage (1) Church Lady type family expect you guys must not have much use for intact genitals.

          1. Deb

            Until you show some concern about babies being aborted, being vaxxed or sold into sexual slavery, I have to doubt the genuineness of your concern.

            Clearly, for you, circumcision is standing in for something very traumatic in your own life. Try forgiveness. It can set you free.

          2. Deb

            And yet we keep having children…

            For someone who puts reason on a pedestal, seems like you could reason your way through that.

            1. LocoLogos

              The stage (3) technocratic globalist are mostly soft snuffin’ the mutilating and mutilated stage (1)(2)s in real-time ww. It’s as plain as the missing nose on your face. “Duffa, duffa duh!🤪”
              Bless the beasts and the [future intact] children. Eugenics and natural selection works. The stage (3)s are gettin’ ‘er dun whether you want to acknowledge it or not. Take off the sunglasses.

          3. Church Lady Logos

            “What is done to children, they will do to society.” – Menninger,

            “How a society treats its most vulnerable is always the measure of its humanity.”

            Abrahamic child genital mutilation is the root of the problem.

            Church Lady Logos is the root of the root of the problem.

            1. Deb

              The root of the problem is evil. And we will never get rid of it this side of Armageddon.

            2. BallisticLogos

              Don’t worry the stage (3)s technocracy culls a comin’ [it’s already happening right here, right now] and hell’s a coming with ’em. Buckle up.

          4. Electroverse Non-secular Mingle

            some interesting dialog on stage (1) religious church lady logos bozos from 32:00 min. mark indicates that Deltas are hard wired to be religious… you can’t help it… and you can’t fix it.

            1. Deb

              Hard-wired? I don’t think so. I spent the first 25 years of my life as an atheist, the next 5 years or so as an agnostic, didn’t get saved til I was 35.

              I was seeking for the truth, and I wasn’t going to be satisfied with anything less.

              Try it. It works.

            2. Deb

              But if you think it’s unfixable, why don’t you leave me the heck alone?

              You are incredibly illogical at times.

            3. Deb

              And a much more determined proselytizer than I am.

              Put your links in a sunless place.

        3. Ice Age Totalitarianism Eugenics

          There are now basically two kinds of people in the world.

          The secular stage (3)s who want to be left alone, shed of the (1)(2) non-secular genital mutilating proselytizers.

          And there are the non- empathetic non-ethical non-secular Delta stage (1)(2) genital mutilating Abrahamic Satan/God switching proselytizers [including some named here and many named/unnamed rich rogue high profile blood drinking, kid torturing and slightly more extreme low moral kid eating addicts – we know who many of the high profile ones are) who won’t leave them the fuck alone.

          Ask your recently mutilated grandson or the children in the links below if they’d rather have been left alone especially during the largest ongoing overt full spectrum blood drinking, kid eating Abrahamic/Satanic genital mutilation and transgender orgies in American/world history. It’s gotta be hardwired and there’s really only one “fix” for that.

          The stage (3) globalist’s “fix”is already “in” as they’d say in “The Sting” and the right demographics were targeted. “Things are gonna slide in all directions” as Cohen would say.

          1. Deb

            How about we divide the world in half, one side given to people who just want to be left alone, the other side to people who can’t seem to leave others alone.

            Do you think the second group will stay on their own side? I don’t either.

            How many times have the Irish invaded England, if you want a concrete example. How many colonies did the Irish establish? How many indigenous peoples conquered?

            Speaking from the Irish half of my DNA, for the love of God, just leave us alone!

            1. Deb

              PS I have never once heard a circumcised man complain about his condition or resultant experience.

              You cannot justifiably complain on someone’s behalf about something they themselves do not mind.

            2. Church Lady Logos

              “How about we divide the world in half, one side given to people who just want to be left alone, the other side to people who can’t seem to leave others alone.”

              “Do you think the non-secular group will stay on their own side? I don’t either.”
              – Deb

              You cannot justifiably complain on humanity’s behalf about something they themselves do not mind.
              Really? Kids love being tortured, genitally mutilated, chopped up like meat, having their adrenalized blood sucked and drank from ” their little wee wee” by Abrahamic Mohels and psychopathic Satanic/Godly Talking Snake believing monsters including the indifferent Church Ladies offering up their own children to these monsters while proudly displaying their non-secular orthodoxy of “unconscious cruelty” and virtue signalling.

              RFK, Jr. says it best.

              The Elite Torture Children and Drink Adrenalized Blood – Robert David Steele Unloads [before he was murdered]

              Adrenalized Blood Business

              “What is done to children, they will do to society.” – Menninger,

              “How a society treats its most vulnerable is always the measure of its humanity.”

            3. Church Lady Logos

              “How about we divide the world in half, one side given to people who just want to be left alone, the other side to people who can’t seem to leave others alone.”

              “Do you think the non-secular group will stay on their own side? I don’t either.”
              – Deb

              You cannot justifiably complain on humanity’s behalf about something they themselves do not mind.
              Really? Kids love being tortured, genitally mutilated, chopped up like meat, having their adrenalized blood sucked and drank from ” their little wee wee” by Abrahamic Mohels and psychopathic Satanic/Godly Talking Snake believing monsters including the indifferent Church Ladies offering up their own children to these monsters while proudly displaying their non-secular orthodoxy of “unconscious cruelty” and virtue signalling.

              RFK, Jr. says it best.
              ht tps://

              The Elite Torture Children and Drink Adrenalized Blood – Robert David Steele Unloads [before he was murdered]
              ht tps://

              Adrenalized Blood Business
              ht tps://

              “What is done to children, they will do to society.” – Menninger,

              “How a society treats its most vulnerable is always the measure of its humanity.”

            4. Timmy

              The “fix” is already in… it’ll get sorted out over the coming decades, no worries. The orthodoxy of the many non-secular Church Lady anachronisms will eventually become a faint memory of a bad dream humanity had a long time ago… but many of the wealthy globalist Satanic stage (3) elite in ww “governance” will likely still be procuring adrenalized blood products… or getting it right from the tap because tortured kids’ screams are part of the thrill… and mostly because it just feels and tastes toooo dang good.

        4. .

          the poor little bugger

    4. Rocket Scientist

      Nick Fuentes || How Government Decides Big Tech Content Moderation Policy
      … especially after the 26 min. mark (one big interwoven “CWNS” News Bender and controlled moderator narrative – ww stage (3) technocratic agenda

  3. Martin

    ‘And it looks like it’s just the beginning…’

  4. Ice Age Totalitarianism Eugenics

    If you could sit down with RFK Jr., Dr. Pierre Kory, and Dr. Robert Malone, what would you ask them? … all discussing The Real Anthony Fauci…part II (the movie)
    Odds are, someone asked your burning question on THIS LIVE BROADCAST.

    1. Electroverse Non-secular Mingle

      some interesting dialog on stage (1) religious church lady logos bozos from 32:00 min. mark

      1. Deb

        Almost everything on the internet at this point is a lie, except for cooking shows, lol.

        Now why would I take the word of a fruity little guy in a box who is probably working for the NWO over my own lifetime of experience? There are plenty of people out there who can be impressed by so-called authorities, but I am not one of them.

        1. Church Lady Logos

          RFK Jr., Dr. Pierre Kory, and Dr. Robert Malone… all fruity little guy(s) in a box who are probably working for the NWO.[stage (3)s and the:
          Children’s Health Defense

  5. Anthony Aaron

    I recall an article in the WSJ or some such source in the ’90s where NOAA admitted that it digital thermometers were overstating the temperatures by 5-7º F … obviously giving impetus to the whole nonsensical agenda of ‘climate change’ that the Club of Rome had adopted in the ’60s to scare the world into submission to their domination.

  6. Dirk Pitt

    They fudged the temp numbers a bit, 2=2=5. The global financial system derivatives equations are in the quadrillions, it’s all part of the big fraud package.
    2+2=5. Snowing NW US, sixteen inches snow forecast in the next ten days here at sea level in my yard. Snowing hard now on the hills behind me. 2=2=4.—add-more-layers/overlays?snowAccu,next10d,47.723,-121.800,8,i:pressure,m:eYqacJ7

    1. Ranch Ghost

      Sittin’ pretty in the sweet-spot [not the cold wet spot] snow-wise compared to most everywhere farther out except for the -25/-27 C coming up [going down] in a few days… and the cows are still munching the tall grass and not having to paw through the recent 4 in. of fluffy snow. Super sunny and this 2 y.o. Kangal Shepherd Bitch Dog [mostly all black really w/ nice white chest and around her eyes/face] is a freak for snow running up and down the haystack and the whole ranch and visiting all the neighbors kids [quite the trapline of snacks I’m figurin’ plus catching mice all over and loves hangin’ out with the cattle too… all hard-wired… a regular super friendly smart wolf … her crumbly or even raw beef burn rate is down to zero like the cows [but they don’t get the long term agenda]… if she don’t get a raw fresh egg with her “people food” she don’t want it… she’s acting like a wild and crazy thang. Great site/link, Danke Herr Pitt.,next10d,53.266,-116.059,8,i:pressure

      1. Ranch Ghost

        She never had a collar, never wore a mask, and never had a shot [both ways, yet] hope she can stay lucky. Luckily the neighbors ain’t as trigger happy as “some of the stranger conspiracy theorist folks” around here, but she don’t chase cows, ducks or chickens (well too much anymore now) as she’s real good at learnin’ from education and a few severe emotional events… no albatrosses around here so we just had to make do. Kindness, not niceness, makes for a longer happier dog life. Now she’s about the suckiest thing I’ve ever seen.

  7. Deb

    The fig tree metaphor refers to the re-establishment of Israel, which occurred in 1948.

    We are nearing the end of the generation that was born in 1948.

    Satan and all his demonic minions know their time is coming, and they are starting to come out of the closet. That fact is evident everywhere, including this comment section, for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear.

    The gulf between those who seek God and those who reject Him is becoming more and more pronounced. At some point, it will become uncrossable, a gulf fixed.

    As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.

    As time goes on, human society and the earth itself will become more unstable. If you want something unmoveable to cling to when everything is in flux, now is the time to draw close to Jesus Christ, the Rock of Ages.

    If you continue to sit on the fence, chances are very good that you will fall off on the wrong side when the shake-up comes.

    Start reading a chapter a day in the New Testament. Ask God to help you understand it. Pray to Him daily, asking Him to reveal Himself to you, even if you think He doesn’t exist. What have you got to lose by that? And potentially a whole universe to gain.

    Don’t wait any longer. The evil in our world is growing stronger day by day. Delusion growing more powerful, more insistent. Make your decision or it will be made for you.

  8. Sven the Viking

    I know this is a bit off topic for this article, but it also concerns Government Lies.

  9. Paul

    Let’s see one side of global warming calls for spending many trillions of dollars and the other zero of dollars. Which side do you think the politicians are for.

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